"In a lot of ways, chief of staff role is a service role. You are always someone in the shadow … Often you are required to do things that are beyond your own level of leadership and maturity. You're going to make a lot of mistakes and it's better for you to be the one making the mistakes than the CEO making the mistakes in many ways, and that's why you're being put in that position in the first place." - Peter Gumulia
In this episode, Jeremy Au speaks on succeeding as Chief of Staff at GoPay/Gojek, growing Indonesia's tech talent pool, and restoring the joy of learning.
Keywords: Gojek, GoPay, Chief of Staff, Harvard MBA, Indonesia, Tech Talent, Education, Leadership, Founder Journey
